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"The President and The American People Want and Need This"

Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:19 AM EDT
health, senate, house, president-obama, bipartisan, speaker-pelosi, heath-care-reform, antitrust-exemption, senator-leahy, representative-cantor
By ThomastonPaine
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Critical question for supporters of the recently passed Health Care Reform Law:

Is the Democratic Senate actually nullifying positive aspects of the health care law and therefore working against the interests of the American people?

Isn’t the Senate’s refusal to move on the recently passed House Bill repealing the “Monopolistic” Insurance Industry “Anti-trust” Exemption actually making the President’s claims to be taking on the Insurance Industry disingenuous. Further, doesn't passing the President's Health Care plan without repealing the “Anti-Trust” Exemption actually continue to allow the insurance companies to legally price fix, collude, bid rig and use other monopolistic practices? And most critically, doesn’t this largely nullify vitally needed cost control efforts claimed in the new Health Care Law? (See Link Below) The Senate has the wind at their back and has proved in this past week that they can act quickly and decisively. Why not then move immediately on this vitally important cost controlling aspect of reform?

It shouldn’t be hard…both parties in the House acted decisively and responsibly in moving to end this outdated exemption on February 24th as HR 4626 passed overwhelmingly 406-19. And to show the remarkable depth of bipartisan support for this critical Bill…among the 406 were actually both Speaker Pelosi and Representative Cantor. Further, the House Bill has the broadest of popular bipartisan support…is only two pages long, clearly states its purpose, and took only two days to pass. Most importantly, any Senators from either party who would stand in the way of repealing this dubious "monopolistic” benefit to the Health Insurance Industry would be sending the clearest of signals to Americans: I work for them...not you.

Again, this is the logical prerequisite for all health insurance reform as continuing to allow this outdated and anti-competitive exemption is simply indefensible and cannot be supported if the goal is to honestly and responsibly address the skyrocketing and systemically threatening costs of health care. It is simply impossible to reasonably and honesty argue about encouraging competitive market forces in the Health Insurance Industry while continuing to legally allow that same industry to avoid the competition laws that apply to “every” other business in the United States with the exception of Major League Baseball. And regardless of your feelings on any other aspect of health care reform this is something that we should "all" be able to agree upon--This "Monopolistic" exemption should be ended immediately. Moreover, the nation has been rubbed raw by the process and quickly passing a repeal of the exemption would be a "common ground" healing gesture by Congress that would exemplify the responsible and constructive problem solving behavior from both parties that so much of the nation longs for.

The President wants this… Secretary Sebelius wants this… House Democrats and Republicans want this…And most importantly the American people want this. It’s now time for the Senate to truly follow through with Senator Patrick Leahy’s plan and effectively take on the Insurance Industry for the American people.

*Comprehensive article that substantially covers the crucial role that this exemption plays in allowing the health insurance industry to legally price fix, collude and use other monopolistic practices:

Key passage:
"The health reform bills that have passed the House and Senate are designed to create a more competitive and consumer-friendly insurance marketplace. Insurance exchanges, market reforms, and new transparency requirements on coverage and cost-sharing structures will help consumers find and purchase cost-effective, high-quality coverage. Allowing an outdated antitrust exemption to undermine these important reforms would be a terrible mistake. If this exemption continues to exist, insurance companies can easily kill any forms of new competition through market allocations, price fixing, or other collusive arrangements."

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2010/02/health_antitrust101.html

Please strongly encourage the Senate to repeal this indefensible exemption immediately.

Link to Information Regarding Senator Patrick Leahy’s Plan:

http://ga3.org/campaign/hcr_antitrust

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ThomastonPaine

What if the Senate never actually gets around to repealing the “Anti-Trust” exemption? This is a real and terrible risk that should be considered. Strategically this may have been the Insurance Industry plan all along...Lobby to urgently pass this plan before the exemption is repealed and then after passage... pour new profits back into redoubled lobbying efforts to maintain the exemption etc...

Again this is something the President, both parties and the American people want. Most importantly this exemption needs to be repealed for the new Health Care Law to effectively address the critical aspect of controlling health care costs. Please call on the Senate to act.

Link to Information Regarding Senator Patrick Leahy’s Plan:

http://ga3.org/campaign/hcr_antitrust

  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:20 AM EDT
SmittersRRDeleted
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Bubba-939441

Nancy says we can't afford NOT to spend 950 billion to stop rising health care costs. Since the bill is now law that means the big bad insurance companies will not raise our rates right? Relax libs, Nancy said our rates won't go up, that's why the Dems passed the bill. Nancy will be long gone and our grand children will be paying China interest.

  • 2 votes
Reply#2 - Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:37 AM EDT
Shirley Draeger

We'll be China....

  • 1 vote
#2.1 - Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:25 AM EDT
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hhabilis

Hell, I've been saying all along this pig is nothing more than a gift to the health insurance industry.

  • 5 votes
Reply#3 - Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:42 AM EDT
Bubba-939441

Right hab. And a gift to China as well. They'll have interest income for a long time unless they cut us off. I understand the US bond rating is not so good anymore. I'd say buy insurance stocks and get some of that tax money back. Problem with that is there is a new medicare tax on stock dividends and investment income. We're pretty much screwed any way we go.

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#3.1 - Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:46 AM EDT
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Shirley Draeger

The biggest of the problems is that this was not a well thought out honestly debated bill. Obama claimed all had been talked about and there was nothing more to discuss but that is never true in any debate. That is why all of it seems to be a sham to me. Clearly it is going to cost more to insure more-don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure that out. This was about the government running our health care. And when that happens the rich will be able to buy wonderful care and we will be left with, I don't know, VA hospitals? Your representatives will most assuredly not be frequenting those facilities-reserved for the unwashed (that would be the rest of us suckers paying the bill). The government has had a lot of power all along to regulate insurance companies. Anyone noticed the most complained about, most vilified, most dysfunctional entities are regulated by our government. Then of course we have the 16,5000 people that will be hired by the IRS (I guess at least it is job creation) to enforce the health care bill.....

Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the Government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal well meaning but without understanding. Brandeis, Louis D.

  • 1 vote
Reply#4 - Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:35 AM EDT
ThomastonPaine

Again, the repeal of the "Monopolistic" Health Insurance Industry Antitrust Exemption is a critical aspect of reform for effective implementation of “all” plans from “all”sides: The President's, Wyden, Ryan, Grayson all....

  • 1 vote
#4.1 - Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:15 AM EDT
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ThomastonPaine

Hopefully this important point is not lost because of the length of my article:

"The health reform bills that have passed the House and Senate are designed to create a more competitive and consumer-friendly insurance marketplace. Insurance exchanges, market reforms, and new transparency requirements on coverage and cost-sharing structures will help consumers find and purchase cost-effective, high-quality coverage. Allowing an outdated antitrust exemption to undermine these important reforms would be a terrible mistake. If this exemption continues to exist, insurance companies can easily kill any forms of new competition through market allocations, price fixing, or other collusive arrangements."

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2010/02/health_antitrust101.html

  • 3 votes
Reply#5 - Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:00 AM EDT
Bubba-939441

"find and purchase cost-effective, high-quality coverage"

More cost effective than I had under Bush? Cost effective enough to justify a record deficit? Cost effective enough to jusify new and increased Medicare taxes? Cost effective enough to cut George's deficit in half as promised. I'm just an old man in a trailer and the math is a little fuzzy in my mind.

    Reply#6 - Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:37 AM EDT
    OnEagleWings

    How would allowing more lawyers to bring litigation lower costs again? Are you trying to tell me that opening the door to trial lawyers to have access to force insurance companies to pay huge settlements will lower costs? Golly Gee Gomer makes perfect sense to me.

      Reply#7 - Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:40 PM EDT
      ThomastonPaine

      OnEagleWings,

      I am actually in favor of "Tort Reform" and ending "Defensive Medicine" but with equitable qualifications.

      However, my post is actually about ending the Health Insurance Antitrust Exemption. This is about repealing an existing law-- not adding one. Repealing this law would simply make the health insurance industry have to comply with competition law that applies to every other business in the US with the exeption of Major League Baseball... This is an argument about introducing competitive market forces to the health insurance industry and not allowing monopolistic practices such as price fixing, bid rigging and collusion.

      • 1 vote
      #7.1 - Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:29 PM EDT
      OnEagleWings

      Oh I totally missed that in your original post. My Bad!!

        #7.2 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 2:27 PM EDT
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        lvh-865640

        This is a little off topic but I thought I'd throw it in.

        http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/26/cbos-2020-vision-debt-will-rise-to-90-of-gdp/

          Reply#8 - Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:22 PM EDT
          ThomastonPaine

          Ivh-865640,

          That is a critically important story and one that will ultimately drive many policy decisions in the very near future. The numbers are unassailable and point to the necessity of reasoned and responsible strategic thinking from our representatives. The debt is an unavoidable problem that must be dealt with in our time.

          Thank you,

            #8.1 - Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:10 PM EDT
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